Question: Has Jackson Ave Traffic Improved?

Construction is over. Has it made a difference?


The last week. Major construction has ended and little remains with final improvements. The area between the Syosset LIRR and the Black Wolf Bar has seen a huge change in traffic, but is the change good, bad or the same?

Do you think the construction on Jackson Avenue has made a difference? Do you notice traffic flowing better than before the construction began? Are there still trouble spots on the street?

What about pedestrians who like to walk, or cyclists who didn't get their bike lane? Do you still see a difference?

Vote in our poll below and tell us what you think in the comments, post on our Facebook wall, or Tweet us @SyossetPatch.

Ryan December 08, 2011 at 09:56 PM
The timing of the light going onto Jackson from Ira is much better. But the right lane on Jackson leading up to the "former" right turn only onto Ira is a mistake. It should NOT have a straight arrow. It's very misleading, since there is a right turn light. This has always been for people making a right ONLY.
DDB December 09, 2011 at 03:20 AM
It isn't misleading, it's no longer a right turn only lane. It actually seems to help get across the tracks better, without having to wait for things to move along when there are cars waiting to turn left on Underhill.
Gabe December 09, 2011 at 03:23 PM
I think they could have done without the left turn lane for railroad ave by cousins pizza. It pushed the entire south bound lane over, so as you're heading south over the tracks, you have to move to the right.
Howie December 09, 2011 at 04:52 PM
The extra lane AFTER Ira is helpful going straight over the tracks. But the right lane before Ira should not have been changed. For one, now when there is a red light and the 1st car is going straight, it holds up everyone who is turning right, which was the original intent of the lane. Secondly, the new parameters are just begging for trouble because I see already that the lane is being used as an express lane from before Convent all the way to the tracks in order to bypass traffic, by those who feel they are entitled to such privileges. It is just a matter of time before this causes an accident or injury, or worse. It's amazing that with all of the supposed planning that went into this project that nobody could forsee this type of behavior and the danger that it could cause. They should be proactive this time & put back up that old sign that said Right Turn Only at Convent and Ira.
Papa Tom December 10, 2011 at 11:43 AM
>>>I think they could have done without the left turn lane for railroad ave by cousins pizza. <<<< Ditto. Very deceiving and dangerous.
bobby December 10, 2011 at 05:22 PM
I agree on the silly straight arrow at Ira....this only causes confusion especially since there is a right turnn arrow on the light. Like the previous writers wrote they should do away with the arrow and make it what its original intent was, a right turn only lane. I foresee a road rage occurrence here in the near future when drivers are looking to make the right turn and the 1st car is going straight and not allowing this, especially when a train is crossing and traffic doesn't move
David Abbey December 12, 2011 at 02:56 AM
This is a great discussion about the Right turn lane from Northbound Jackson Ave. to Ira Rd. I also noticed that if one is in this lane FROM Convent Rd heading North, the first couple of white arrows on the road seems to indicate Right Turn Only and then the 2 Arrows just before Ira Rd. each have a straight and right turn on it. Then you have a traffic signal with a Right Turn Arrow (green) on to Ira Rd. It would seem to me that if you have a Right Green Arrow that it would be corresponding to a Right Turn Only Lane. Unfortunately, this conflicts with the last 2 arrows just S. of Ira Rd. on Northbound Jackson Ave. This should be rectified and I think that the "Right Turn Only" from the right lane should be restored with very clear lane markings and maybe some signage. Overall though I do think the construction went quite quickly and looks good. I don't like more traffic lights but the light at Dawes and the Mall and Jackson Ave. haven't impacted traffic as they are probably only activated when a car wants to come from the side streets onto Jackson Ave or crossing Jackson Ave. When it was a Right Turn Only (pre-construction), only real jerky drivers would use that line to by pass the single Northbound lane on Jackson Ave. Now it is technically okay to use that lane based on the lane markings. Also, it would be wrong for cars behind the lead car to honk as there are no Right Turn Only Signs. I agree that it is confusing and hopefully will be fixed.
DDB December 12, 2011 at 04:32 PM
It's all right turn only until after the entrance to the strip mall, then there's straight/right markings. It gives the people going over the tracks a little more room to get to the right. I don't think this is a bad thing, I think it helps clear the clustereff of people trying to get to the right, while people are turning right from Ira to Jackson. I don't know if there is one there already, but a no right on red from Ira to Jackson would be a good thing. The slight inconvenience to people having to wait to make a right onto Ira may prove to be a fair trade off for a smother ride across the tracks.
Papa Tom December 13, 2011 at 12:29 AM
The markings in the right lane at Jackson and Ira confuse me, too. First, you see right turn arrows, leading you to think you're in a right turn only lane. Then, after the Rite Aid shopping center, the arrows turn straight. So, is it right turn only into the shopping center and then straight only if you ignored the previous rule? Someone please explain.
Howie December 13, 2011 at 04:56 AM
Any effort to improve something is laudable. But the overthinking that apparently went into this one block of roadway and attempt to reinvent the wheel while reconstructing it has turned out to be a complete waste of time and resources. While it is nice to finally have a smooth surface to drive on, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the driving guidelines that we had set out for us prior to this project. Now we have a confusing right turn/straight lane, an unnecessary left turn lane by Cousin's, and the coup de grace, the sidewalk carved away to form a personal parking spot for Jim's Ferrari. I don't know if it is too late to make corrections to any of these at this point. But the Rt turn/Straight lane should return to its previous RT turn only status. As DDB pointed out a No Turn on Red on Ira turning onto Jackson may help as now many treat this red light as optional and are under the impression that just because they are allowed to make a right turn on red it somehow gives them right of way over the people travelling on Jackson with a green light. Shutting this option down altogether may clear some of the gridlock at this intersection when its busy and a train comes.
Papa Tom December 13, 2011 at 10:48 PM
I think all the comments made here have been correct; however, I don't think we need to point fingers or call anybody stupid. Jackson Avenue, like any other major municipal project, will remain a work-in-progress until it's right. Obviously, it isn't right yet, but it doesn't mean we are stuck with it forever. The changes that so obviously need to be made require little more than a can of pain to fix.
Howie December 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM
Who pointed any fingers or called anyone stupid? Did I miss something?
Papa Tom December 14, 2011 at 01:50 AM
>>>Who pointed any fingers or called anyone stupid? Did I miss something?<<<< Sorry, I guess I wrongly implied that THIS conversation had gone that route. In general, the talk around town about this project has been very "I told you so" and, often, childish. It seems that all of the armchair quarterbacks have come out of the woodwork to criticize the results and belittle the people who designed the road. I guess I kind of lumped this discussion into all that. In fact, this discussion is one of the few places I've seen or heard civilized discussion about the bugs in the project.
Heather Doyle December 14, 2011 at 04:43 AM
Everyone has made some excellent points in this discussion. One of the main reasons for the Jackson Avenue project was to improve safety for pedestrians, specifically after a middle schooler was tragically struck and killed. Do we all agree that construction made the road safer for pedestrians, despite the minor logistical issues with turn lanes?
Gabe January 10, 2012 at 12:04 AM
You can only do so much to improve safety for pedestrians. Every night when I drive up and down Jackson, I still see pedestrians, in dark clothing, walking in the street instead of the using the beautifully paved sidewalks on either side of the Avenue.


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