Question of the Day: S. Oyster Bay Road

Is South Oyster Bay Road too dangerous?

Two boys on skateboards collided with a car on South Oyster Bay Road on Sunday, and one of the boys later died.

Although police have not determined who was at fault, neighbors and bystanders agreed Sunday that the road is not safe for drivers and pedestrians.

Is South Oyster Bay Road getting too dangerous? What can be done to improve the safety of the road? Is it up to drivers to be more cautious or should more restrictions be put on the road (more lights, lower speed limits, etc.)?

Vote in our poll and tell us your thoughts in the comments.

marie November 07, 2011 at 01:05 AM
We don't need to lower the speed limit, people just need to abide by the limits that are set. We don't need more lights, people just need to respond to the lights we have - stop when they are red, prepare to stop when it is yellow - not race through them all. And people need to stop texting while driving - deadly combination.
DDB November 07, 2011 at 01:40 AM
The road is not getting more dangerous, the people are getting more careless or reckless. You can put a light on every corner, stop signs, speed bumps, traffic cams, but in the words of the great Ron White, you can't fix stupid. People need to take responsibility for their actions and stop depending on others to protect them from their own actions. Case in point, how much money was spent on all those new "No Turn on Red" signs with the red dot? Really?
Gabe November 07, 2011 at 02:19 AM
Why were the kids in the road with their skateboards to begin with?!?!! There are sidewalks on both sides of this road.
allagashgirl November 07, 2011 at 02:49 AM
They do not have STOP signs on every corner like their should be. I've been saying it since I moved out here. I slow down and look both ways but some people don't and technically if there is no stop sign, they don't have to. There should be one on every corner.
DDB November 07, 2011 at 03:31 AM
allagashgirl, do you even drive? There is no need for a stop sign on every corner, that would be just silly, no one would get anywhere.
Grifhunter November 07, 2011 at 07:10 AM
Two years ago I was nearly killed when a car coming from a side street ran the light trying to turn right onto SOB road, hit my car into a tree and flipped my car upside down. NO change in any lights, speed limit or otherwise could have prevented this distracted driver from selfishly looking before jumping out into traffic after a half assed try at a right turn on red. Enforcement of full stops before right on red= good idea. Enforcing full stops at stop signs coming off of the Northern Parkway ramps would also help. But most all, put up a guard rail, full length along each side of SOB Road: look at how many trees bear the scars of fatal collisions.
l hilden November 07, 2011 at 09:38 AM
marie,,,,,,,,,,you are in lala land if you think speed limit is aok!!
DDB November 07, 2011 at 01:30 PM
Louise, you are in lala land on this one. The speed limit is 40mph. You would be hard pressed to find anyone going 40mph on SOB Rd though you would recognize them right away, they would be getting passed by many cars flipping them the bird for holding up traffic. I believe Marie's point is not to make new laws when the current laws are are not enforced. But don't think there wouldn't be a public outcry if the laws were enforced (like the cry baby in Newsday a few weeks ago that didn't think stop meant stop when you make a right on red). If they lower the speed to 35, then people will do 45 instead of 50. You enforce 40, and eventually, people will do 40.
Craig S Markell November 07, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Take a walk up South Oyster Bay Road. Sidewalks are crumbling, tree roots are pushing the sidewalks up, and tree branches overhang makIng it difficult to walk without having to move off the sidewalk. The boys should not be in the street, but the neglect of the town and homeowners are also to blame.
Stacey B. November 07, 2011 at 03:18 PM
Drive by and take a look at the condition of the sidewalks and you will see that there is no way that you can hardly walk on the sidewalks. They are horrible!
Stacey B. November 07, 2011 at 03:20 PM
Whose responsibility are the sidewalks on that street? In the winter when it snows they are never shoveled. People are forced to walk in the street. I believe that the parents of those boys should look into how horrible the conditions of the sidewalks are. This is a serious problem.
marie November 07, 2011 at 03:23 PM
Dont even get me started on neglect by the town! You are right about the use of the sidewalks - skateboarders should not be in the street, except to cross (I assumed that is what they were doing). But try using some of the sidewalks, especially those that are public property. They are not maintained unless they abut to property owned by a town official - then the maintenance crews are there twice a week to cut the grass and they fix the trees, lights and concrete pronto while the rest of us can wait for a year or two. How do I know - I know someone who worked in that area... sad... our tax dollars at waste.
Stacey B. November 07, 2011 at 03:25 PM
I am happy that this was posted. I have often grumbled about the sidewalks along that very busy and dangerous road. People can not even walk to the library from the surrounding developments due to the deplorable sidewalk conditions. The road is horrible as far as drivers but give the people a chance to be able to actually walk on the sidewalks!!!! You can't!!!! Can't ride a bike or a skateboard for sure. I get so mad in the winter when those same sidewalks are NOT shoveled. People are forced into the street then and the lighting is horrible at night for someone in the street. We pay such terribly high taxes why does this child have to die. I understand that him being in the street is debatable however if the sidewalks were actually nice I would understand it truly being the kid's fault for not using them but they are totally unusable sidewalks.
marie November 07, 2011 at 03:28 PM
thank you DDB, that is my point. the rules are neither followed nor enforced. and you are right, you can't fix stupid. and lalalalouise, take a glance at your speedometer and see what you are clocking next time you are tooling down the road.
Stacey B. November 07, 2011 at 03:29 PM
COMPLETE waste of our high taxes.... How can we possibly "fix" these sidewalks? Anyone know?
Sue November 07, 2011 at 03:34 PM
For the past 15 years the sidewalks have been impassable. I have written numerous letters and nothing has been done! You cannot even walk on them. The trees have pushed the sidewalks up that it is impossible to push a stroller or walk. The town needs to step it up and do something soon. Many children use that stretch of road to access the library. They are forced to walk inthe road with cars travelilng 50 miles per hour or more! It took forever to get a light installed at that intersection and it only happened after a retired elementray teacher was killed.....Is that what it takes...a death!!!!! Now, unfortunately maybe these unconscious politicians will put pressure on the town to do something. It won't bring that boy back, but maybe it will save others!
steve dwyer November 07, 2011 at 03:54 PM
the problem is that nassau county, specifcly judy jacobs has no concern for planning for the saftey of pedestrians and bicycles, or skate boards. when judy was asked about bike lanes during the planning of SOB rd, her reply was "we can't do that, then everyone will have to". not only SOB there is a complete lack of safe places for biking and walking all over the county. a sin in these days where we need better health and lower energy consumption
tia November 07, 2011 at 04:18 PM
The sidewalks are deplorable! People have no choice but to walk/ ride on the shoulder of S. Oyster Bay Rd. What a tragedy that a young boy would lose his life. My heart aches for his family.
jar November 07, 2011 at 05:38 PM
Skate boarding on a bussy road is the problem add no helmet - stupid
DDB November 07, 2011 at 06:29 PM
Pot...kettle. Kettle...pot.
Sy Osset November 07, 2011 at 06:49 PM
40 mph on South Oyster Bay Rd is fine I agree with DDB. Maybe if the cops would enforce the speed limit on the roads things would get better. I remember when the speed limit was 50 and there was a center divider the entire length of the road from Jericho to the LIE.
Sy Osset November 07, 2011 at 06:53 PM
SOB is a County road, the county is broke and things will get worse before they get better.
TG November 07, 2011 at 07:33 PM
The sidewalks on SOB Rd and in many neighborhoods are absolutely horrible. Dog walkers, kids riding bikes, etc. are forced to walk in the street. The responsibility for sidewalk repair should be on town....not homeowners. The sidewalks should be consistently safe.
Papa Tom November 08, 2011 at 01:25 PM
>>>when judy was asked about bike lanes during the planning of SOB rd, her reply was "we can't do that, then everyone will have to". <<<<< Steve: To be fair to Judy, she was only the messenger in the case of bike lanes on Jackson Avenue. She did present the idea to the Nassau County planners in the early stage of the project and THEY rejected it for the reason you noted. The Jackson Avenue project was eventually taken over by the Town of Oyster Bay, which did a rip-roaring job of finally getting it done. However, by the time they put pen to paper and metal to concrete, we were in a deep economic crisis and all talk of bike lanes and other features that the average taxpayer would consider frivolous was swept right off the table.
l hilden November 09, 2011 at 05:38 AM
to those who so rudely engaged in calling me down i say..go out and buy a scanner and listen to the calls for auto accidents for just one week....the bottom line is that the parents of those kids neglected to educate them and set boundaries...at 15 you are still a kid and feel quite invincible...many factors were involved in this horrific event and yes the road itself sucks but they should have not been skateboarding on a main street with or without helmets...as a parent our main goal is to protect our children and it takes vigilance..you just can't slack off....and yes we all have a responsibility to be proactive regarding speed limits, helmet laws etc..everyone has an opinion and then they fall asleep until the next tragedy occurs and so on and so on
Ted Choate November 10, 2011 at 07:29 PM
I agree....there is nothing wrong with the roads in Syosset...just the drivers. The speed limits are ignored...stop signs are options, not necessities, and cras don't even slow down to make a legal or illegal right turn on a red light. My children live out of state and they dread driving in this area!!
DDB November 11, 2011 at 01:39 PM
Unless you count people disagreeing with your point as rude, no one was rude to you in their reply. Be that as it may, there is no point to sit around and listen to a police scanner all day. The main problem with all the accidents are the people, drivers and pedestrians, etc. There does come a need for more upgrades to roadways when there is an increased volume. But for the most part, these accidents are caused by human error, and the humans are paying quite a high price for it. When you spend your days listening to your scanner, see if you can add up how many of those accidents happen on the part of the road with signals or stop signs. I see more accidents on lighted intersections than anywhere else. what more do people need others to do to protect them from themselves?
John November 11, 2011 at 04:11 PM
What I fail to comprehend is that if the County is responsible for the sidewalks on South Oyster Bay Road, and they are in deplorable conditions, why is something not done? We have County Legislators that are supposed to represent their Community. If you believe that the sidewalks on South Oyster Bay Road are deplorable (a statement I agree with), call or write your County Legislator. This is who represents you. For Syosset, it's either Ms. Jacobs or Rose Walker depending where you live. Posting the issue on this site does not help. Writing to them might. I for one will take my own advice and follow it up in a letter to Ms. Jacobs.
l hilden November 11, 2011 at 06:03 PM
bravo john...what you said makes the most sense!!
allagashgirl November 11, 2011 at 08:31 PM
DDB- I should have been clearer. Yes, I do drive. I meant that in the adjoining neighborhood streets, (which I think people speed through as well) there are stop signs on some corners and there are some intersections that should have them and do not.


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